so ive been building my own quads for a few years now and honestly im just kind of tired of the whole process at this point. spent three weekends trying to get my latest build dialed in and its still not flying how i want it to. thinking about just grabbing something prebuilt that i can actually fly without spending every saturday soldering stuff.

been looking at the iFlight Nazgul V3 and the Diatone Roma F5 V3. the Roma seems to get a lot of love on here but i havent seen much recent talk about it. the Nazgul is easier to find in stock in my region which is a big deal since im in europe and shipping from some places takes forever.

main thing i care about is freestyle, not racing. i dont care if its the absolute fastest thing, i just want something with good authority and that responds well to quick direction changes. also would prefer it to come with decent motors stock so i dont have to swap them out immediately like ive had to do with other prebuilts in the past.

anyone running either of these recently? also open to other suggestions if theres something obvious im missing

had the Nazgul 5 V3 for about 8 months now and for freestyle its honestly pretty solid out of the box. the betaflight tune it ships with is a bit conservative, rates are low and the filtering is heavier than it needs to be, but once you spend like an hour tweaking that stuff it flies really well. motors are fine, i was skeptical because iFlight motors have a mixed rep but havent had any issues and ive binned it pretty hard a few times.

cant speak to the Roma directly but a mate of mine has one and says the stock tune is actually better than the Nazgul which tracks with what ive read. if shipping isnt a problem id probably lean that way just based on what people say about the frame flex being less of an issue. the Nazgul frame is fine but its not the stiffest thing ever.

what ESC stack does the Roma come with these days? i remember the earlier version had some issues with desync on hard throttle punches but i might be thinking of a different version tbh. also curious what FC they moved to