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trying to actually get good at manual flying, not just hovering around

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ok so this might be a dumb question but how do people actually practice intentional maneuvers as opposed to just flying around and hoping they get better. ive been flying a whoop in my living room and thats helped a lot with stick control but when i go outside with my cinematic quad everything kind of falls apart. im fine in calm air doing slow stuff but the moment i try to do anything with speed or any kind of banking turn it either looks sloppy or i panic and go back to position hold.

i feel like im missing some fundamental drill or approach. like is there a progression people actually use or do most people just log hours and figure it out. i tried watching fpv tutorials but a lot of those assume you want to do freestyle which isnt really my goal, i just want smoother controlled movement and to stop being scared of anything over like 30% throttle.

running a 5 inch cinewhoops build on betaflight if that matters, rates are pretty low right now because i turned them down when i kept overcorrecting.

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figure 8s. seriously just go do figure 8s around two objects until theyre boring. sounds stupidly simple but they force you to coordinate yaw and roll at the same time in a way that hovering never does. start big and slow and shrink the pattern over time. when you can do tight consistent figure 8s at moderate speed without thinking about it your general stick control will have improved a lot.

after that id say practice power loops on a simulator before you try them for real. velocidrone or liftoff, spend time there first. the sim wont feel exactly the same as your real quad but the spatial awareness and the muscle memory of not panicking when youre inverted carries over more than people think.

also on your rates ? low rates are fine for learning but if they're TOO low you actually have to move the sticks further for small corrections which can make things feel sluggish and harder to fly smoothly, not easier. there's kind of a sweet spot. might be worth bumping them up slightly and seeing if it feels more responsive without being twitchy.

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the panic at 30% throttle thing i remember that feeling. for me what broke it was just deliberately going to a big open field with nothing to hit and just doing punch outs straight up. not recording, not trying to do anything artistic, just going fast on purpose until fast stopped feeling scary. takes maybe two or three sessions and then suddenly you have access to the whole throttle range instead of just the bottom half.

cinewhoop on betaflight is a bit of its own thing too since the props in duct make it handle differnently than an open build, just something to keep in mind when youre watching tutorials from people flying naked 5 inch.

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