ok so after probably 4 months of messing with PIDs and filters i finally have something that just feels right. running a 5inch with 2306 motors and the props are the dal cyclone 5048s. dropped my D term way down from where betaflight autotune put it, like it kept feeling sluggish on snaps and i couldnt figure out why for the longest time.

also turned RPM filter on and lowered the gyro filter cutoff and honestly the difference was pretty noticable. quad feels way crisper on direction changes and my attempts at Matty flips are actually starting to look like something. still cant get the timing on the throttle punch consistent but whatever, small wins. anyone else find that autotune just overtunes D or is that a motor/prop combo thing

autotune almost always goes too high on D in my experience, especially on stiffer builds. its trying to eliminate all oscillation which makes sense from a tuning standpoint but for freestyle you actually want a little bit of that liveliness. i usually take whatever it spits out and back D off like 20-30% and start from there

what FC are you running? asking because ive been fighting my tune for weeks on a speedybee and wondering if thats part of my problem or if its just me being bad at this lol. also what rates setup you on, mine feel way too twitchy for trying to learn tricks rn