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trying to learn split S and keep losing orientation mid maneuver

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ok so background: been on a 5inch freestyle quad for about a year, can do basic rolls and flips no problem, getting comfortable with power loops on a good day. decided to start working on split S because it looks clean and seems like a foundational thing to have locked. the problem is i keep losing track of where im pointed about halfway through, especially if im coming in from an angle thats not perfectly straight. i end up overcorrecting and just sort of... flopping out of it instead of pulling through cleanly.

simulator time hasnt totally fixed it, i can do it fine in liftoff but real world something feels off. not sure if its a throttle timing issue or if i just need more altitude to give myself margin for error. flying a nazgul evoque if that matters. anyone been through this learning curve and have any pointers on how you actually got it dialed?

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the sim gap is real for this one. split S in liftoff feels way more forgiving because the physics arent quite right on the roll rate and recovery. what helped me was doing it from way more altitude than i thought i needed, like embarrassingly high, until the sequence became automatic. the orientation loss you're describing is super common and its basically your brain not having processed the visual fast enough before you need to input the pull. more altitude = more time = your brain catches up.

also try doing it from a straight and level entry only until its solid. the angled entry stuff can come later, youre adding variables you dont need right now.

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took me way longer than a year to get this clean so dont feel bad. i actually think part of it is throttle ? a lot of people chop throttle at the wrong point in the roll and then the pull is mushy. you want to be committed to that pull before you think youre ready. the nazgul should have enough grunt to save you if the entry is decent. honestly just crash more, thats how it got dialed for me, stopped worrying about bending props and started just committing to the manuever even if it felt sketchy.

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